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Removing Metal Bands

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Posted by: phoenia  (4 years ago)
Hi. So I'm just going to start from the beginning.

First off, I apologize in advance if I sound rude or hostile. This is just very aggravating and I can't seem to do anything about it.

I'm 20, and money is not an issue as far as wasting it on doing things with my braces, since it's covered by my insurance.

I went to a dentist when I was 16 and had my last baby tooth removed, since it wasn't coming down. They told me that it would come down any time. And.. it never did.

I went to another dentist three years later, and they said there was nothing they could do.

I went back to the first dentist, and they first said I would have to see an ortho surgeon and then rushed me out. Then when my sister went, she mentioned me (she has the same problem), and they told her to make an appointment for me to come in. I went in, and they told me I needed braces to pull it down. I was like okay and went along with it.

This ortho/dentist office is shady, for one, but there aren't many dentists around my area, from what I can see, and so I thought I didn't have any other choice.

First off, I got my spacers, and I had to get them redone because they apparently didn't put them in right the first time. When I got the second set on the bottom, I got braces on the top, with a spring across the gap where my tooth is missing.

That was two weeks ago. This last Tuesday, I got the spacers out of the bottom, and they insisted on putting bands on the bottom. I talked to them and asked if I could only have braces on the top, since that is where my missing tooth is and I ONLY want the tooth to come down (my teeth are straight enough), and I got two different stories. The orthodontist told me I HAD to have them on the bottom as well, and said I was crazy for not wanting them. When she left, the dental assistant gave me the choice, but lectured me into getting them on the bottom as well. Either way, I have to wait 2-3 months for my bite to open up. Something along those lines. So she put bands on the bottom so that I wouldn't have to go through spacers again.

My frist complaint is, the bands are COVERED in glue/cement or whatever that is. I can't even floss around the teeth with the bands. They are sticking out on both sides, so I am accidentally biting my cheek every time I eat, and it's getting raw. It's also sharp and cutting my tongue every time I swallow or even talk. I had to resort to covering it in wax.

This morning at about 6, I woke up because my tongue was hurting so bad. I tried eating cereal, and I just can't. It hurts so bad every time I even talk, and trying to explain the situation to my dad is unbearable. It isn't pain that will just go away. They are literally sticking out and sharp as heck.

No other dentists will remove them, and I can understand that. But my dentist won't either. They told me it was too much work to put them on only to have them taken off. But that isn't my fault that they didn't put them on right (or so I assume. the ones they put on the top that first visit are smooth on the back, not sharp. I can feel it with my tongue). I don't know what to do. The dentist is already hopelessly rude, and so I'm about to say heck with it and take the whole thing off myself, the top braces and all, since they won't, and act like I'm crazy. It's not even worth it.

Now I've been advised on Yahoo answers several times to just go back to the ortho -- but I can't. They won't do anything about it. Please don't tell me to just do that.

I've also asked how to remove the bands myself, and I was reminded of how dangerous it is.

I understand that it's dangerous, that's why I'm not yanking on them or anything. Is there a way to dissolve the glue around the tooth? Maybe encourage it to loosen without having to pull my molars loose? I know it's not a good idea, but but it hurts so bad. If there's any way possible, please tell me. I need these bands to be removed.

I also apologize once more if I sound hostile. I'm really, really not in a very good mood because of this.
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Hi. So I'm just going to start from the beginning.

First off, I apologize in advance if I sound rude or hostile. This is just very aggravating and I can't seem to do anything about it.

I'm 20, and money is not an issue as far as wasting it on doing things with my braces, since it's covered by my insurance.

I went to a dentist when I was 16 and had my last baby tooth removed, since it wasn't coming down. They told me that it would come down any time. And.. it never did.

I went to another dentist three years later, and they said there was nothing they could do.

I went back to the first dentist, and they first said I would have to see an ortho surgeon and then rushed me out. Then when my sister went, she mentioned me (she has the same problem), and they told her to make an appointment for me to come in. I went in, and they told me I needed braces to pull it down. I was like okay and went along with it.

This ortho/dentist office is shady, for one, but there aren't many dentists around my area, from what I can see, and so I thought I didn't have any other choice.

First off, I got my spacers, and I had to get them redone because they apparently didn't put them in right the first time. When I got the second set on the bottom, I got braces on the top, with a spring across the gap where my tooth is missing.

That was two weeks ago. This last Tuesday, I got the spacers out of the bottom, and they insisted on putting bands on the bottom. I talked to them and asked if I could only have braces on the top, since that is where my missing tooth is and I ONLY want the tooth to come down (my teeth are straight enough), and I got two different stories. The orthodontist told me I HAD to have them on the bottom as well, and said I was crazy for not wanting them. When she left, the dental assistant gave me the choice, but lectured me into getting them on the bottom as well. Either way, I have to wait 2-3 months for my bite to open up. Something along those lines. So she put bands on the bottom so that I wouldn't have to go through spacers again.

My frist complaint is, the bands are COVERED in glue/cement or whatever that is. I can't even floss around the teeth with the bands. They are sticking out on both sides, so I am accidentally biting my cheek every time I eat, and it's getting raw. It's also sharp and cutting my tongue every time I swallow or even talk. I had to resort to covering it in wax.

This morning at about 6, I woke up because my tongue was hurting so bad. I tried eating cereal, and I just can't. It hurts so bad every time I even talk, and trying to explain the situation to my dad is unbearable. It isn't pain that will just go away. They are literally sticking out and sharp as heck.

No other dentists will remove them, and I can understand that. But my dentist won't either. They told me it was too much work to put them on only to have them taken off. But that isn't my fault that they didn't put them on right (or so I assume. the ones they put on the top that first visit are smooth on the back, not sharp. I can feel it with my tongue). I don't know what to do. The dentist is already hopelessly rude, and so I'm about to say heck with it and take the whole thing off myself, the top braces and all, since they won't, and act like I'm crazy. It's not even worth it.

Now I've been advised on Yahoo answers several times to just go back to the ortho -- but I can't. They won't do anything about it. Please don't tell me to just do that.

I've also asked how to remove the bands myself, and I was reminded of how dangerous it is.

I understand that it's dangerous, that's why I'm not yanking on them or anything. Is there a way to dissolve the glue around the tooth? Maybe encourage it to loosen without having to pull my molars loose? I know it's not a good idea, but but it hurts so bad. If there's any way possible, please tell me. I need these bands to be removed.

I also apologize once more if I sound hostile. I'm really, really not in a very good mood because of this.


1. Bringing permanent teeth into the arch which are embedded in bone is very difficult in teens. It is difficult to impossible in adults. Sometimes the teeth move; sometimes they don't.
2. Can't say for sure in your case, but many times if you straighten one arch, the other arch had to be moved to fix it.
3. If we have to band any teeth in the arch, it is the lower molars. I try to put brackets on, but if they break off, I have to resort to bands.
4. Bands should not have any residual cement on or around them. The metal should be clean.
5. Any dentist who has graduated from an accredited dental school should be able to remove a band.
6. There is no way I know to dissolve cement around bands. To remove bands, we have special band-removing pliers.

What are you going to do with the rest of the brackets and wires on your teeth if you have your molar bands removed?

Even if it can be done, moving an impacted tooth into the arch takes a LOOOOONG time in an adult, if it happens at all. An alternative is to have a surgeon remove the tooth, do a bone graft, let it heal, then put an implant in the empty space.

Where on earth do you live with so few dentists? There is an oversupply of dentists everywhere I have traveled in the US, except rural Alaska.
Posted 4 years ago
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Posted by: phoenia  (4 years ago)
Thank you very much for that information. Apparently they haven't told me everything that I needed to know. They told me that the adult tooth would come down any time after I got the braces on. They never mentioned how long it would take, let alone the possibility of it not coming down at all.. I'm currently trying to decide if having the braces and waiting so long is even worth it. I scheduled another ortho to get a second opinion, but it's not until the end of this month.. I just don't know what to do about the bands right now.

It really shouldn't have any residual cement? My bottom left one looks like it ran over with the stuff.

I live in Ohio. I guess I should say there aren't that many quality dentists, rather than none at all. I've had some not so great experiences with the dentists around here. When I was younger, I had one who was arguing with two assistants at once about taxes while giving me a filling, so loudly that my dad actually came back to see what was going on.
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Dentist
Thank you very much for that information. Apparently they haven't told me everything that I needed to know. They told me that the adult tooth would come down any time after I got the braces on. They never mentioned how long it would take, let alone the possibility of it not coming down at all.. I'm currently trying to decide if having the braces and waiting so long is even worth it. I scheduled another ortho to get a second opinion, but it's not until the end of this month.. I just don't know what to do about the bands right now.

It really shouldn't have any residual cement? My bottom left one looks like it ran over with the stuff.

I live in Ohio. I guess I should say there aren't that many quality dentists, rather than none at all. I've had some not so great experiences with the dentists around here. When I was younger, I had one who was arguing with two assistants at once about taxes while giving me a filling, so loudly that my dad actually came back to see what was going on.


A good job in banding should leave only a thin line of cement between the band and the tooth. There should not be any cement on the outside of the band.

I can get most adult ortho cases done in two years, but bringing impacted teeth in is a crap shoot, and may take 2 1/2 years. The thing I do is bracket just the arch with the impacted tooth. I uncover the impacted tooth and try to bracket it. If the tooth starts to move, I can eventually put brackets on the opposing teeth down the road. If the tooth does not move, it is time to call it quits and take the brackets off. The tooth can be removed and a bone graft done, so an implant can be placed instead.

You need a second opinion at this point. Please don't try to take your own bands off.

Posted 4 years ago
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