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Periodontal Disease - Severe allergies to all locals

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Patient
Posted by: bluesquaretatt2  (8 years ago)
Hi, I have had very bad experiences at the dentist when I was a child and almost died twice from anaphylactic shock. I am severely allergic to all local anesthetics: novocaine, lidocaine, benzocain,... penicillin, amoxicillian, for examples..

All my life, I have taken good care of my teeth and had no cavities. About 5 years ago, the dentist found a pit & filled it with no medicine.

SInce then, I now I have periodontal disease from having a tongue ring in my mouth. (go figure) I of course took it out.

My previous dentist told me that I need to have a major deep cleaning and that I might lose my 3 front bottom teeth because of deep pockets in the back & receding gums, but he won't touch me because he said that they only use things that I am allergic too.

For 2 years now, I've avoided the problem with natural remedies, salt water, teas, peroxide, herbs (myrrh, neem), and not eating anything hard.

Most all dentists that I contact, only use novocaine, and don't believe me when I say I am allergic. I have a note from an allergist, but he won't even test me (too dangerous he says)

I'm terribly frightened because my front bottom tooth is lose and I have no dental insurance, no job, and am on permanent disability. What do I do if my tooth falls out, where would I go??

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Dentist
Hi, I have had very bad experiences at the dentist when I was a child and almost died twice from anaphylactic shock. I am severely allergic to all local anesthetics: novocaine, lidocaine, benzocain,... penicillin, amoxicillian, for examples..

All my life, I have taken good care of my teeth and had no cavities. About 5 years ago, the dentist found a pit & filled it with no medicine.

SInce then, I now I have periodontal disease from having a tongue ring in my mouth. (go figure) I of course took it out.

My previous dentist told me that I need to have a major deep cleaning and that I might lose my 3 front bottom teeth because of deep pockets in the back & receding gums, but he won't touch me because he said that they only use things that I am allergic too.

For 2 years now, I've avoided the problem with natural remedies, salt water, teas, peroxide, herbs (myrrh, neem), and not eating anything hard.

Most all dentists that I contact, only use novocaine, and don't believe me when I say I am allergic. I have a note from an allergist, but he won't even test me (too dangerous he says)

I'm terribly frightened because my front bottom tooth is lose and I have no dental insurance, no job, and am on permanent disability. What do I do if my tooth falls out, where would I go??

Any advice would be appreciated.


You are super mixed up.

There is no way having a cavity filled can cause gum disease. You have NOT been taking good care of your teeth unless you have been having them cleaned every 6 months. And if you had done that, you would not have gum disease now.

Furthermore, Novacaine (Procaine) has not been used as a dental anesthetic for about 50 years. Lidocaine allergy is so rare it practically does not exist. There are plenty of other anesthetics out there- Prilocaine and Marcaine are two that I use, for instance. NO PATIENT is allergic to all these diverse anesthetics. You might be sensitive to the epinephrine in them, but you are not allergic to all of them.

You do not know you are allergic unless you have a test. I don't believe you when you say your allergist won't test you. Do you live in some third-world country with government-employed witch doctors?
Posted 8 years ago
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Posted by: JorgeARenderosJr  (8 years ago)
Hey doc! Where did you learn how to read? She said that she got periodontal disease from wearing a tongue ring, not from getting a cavity filled! Before you give someone bad advice. I suggest you have your facts straight and read the posting thoroughly. I am also allergic to the same medicine and find it hard to get treated due to that!

Also, you said that Novocain hasn't been used in 50 years! What do you give your patients, Vodka?

Also, you're a doctor, so why not give medical advice and be nice to people that ask for help!

People come here to get advice, not to be lectured!!

Sounds you got your Witch Doctors degree from some third world country!!!
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Dear Forum Members,

It's nice to read how we can help each other but sometimes we come across as rather 'cold' and this is particularly so with written texts unfortunately. So I've decided to switch on for a bit in order to tone down the emotions a little.

Our colleague Henry is medically correct in his comments but they tend to seem like he has a pre-formed opinion.

Hi, I have had very bad experiences at the dentist when I was a child
and almost died twice from anaphylactic shock. I am severely allergic to
all local anesthetics: novocaine, lidocaine, benzocain,... penicillin,
amoxicillian, for examples..


Penicillin is an antibiotic and the others are local anaesthetics. I
guess you're allergic to antibiotics, which often happens,
unfortunately, probably due to the fact that these medications were
prescribed rather carelessly for a long time. In comparison, allergies
to local anaesthetics are very rare.

All my life, I have taken good care of my teeth and had no cavities.
About 5 years ago, the dentist found a pit & filled it with no medicine.

There's a lot that can be written about fillings - but one simple rule -
think about why you usually have fillings in the side teeth and very
rarely in the front of the lower jaw. Everything has a cause and with it
a beginning and therefore an end too! The aim is to find an end through
knowledge - there's more about this in the 'Caries' video.
For young patients it is recommended to use a filling material which can
hold firmly for decades (when done properly and well-cared for). There
is always the threat of inflammation of the dental nerve once a tooth is
going to have to be drilled. Materials that remain firm for a long time
include gold, ceramics and titanium inlays...


SInce then, I now I have periodontal disease from having a tongue ring
in my mouth. (go figure) I of course took it out.

A tongue piercing may cause localized problems in the gums but is
unlikely to cause widespread periodonitis. Particularly if you really
have an established periodontitis problem we would like to avoid
supplying the bacteria present in your mouth with newly created pockets
where they can hide from oxygen...


My previous dentist told me that I need to have a major deep cleaning
and that I might lose my 3 front bottom teeth because of deep pockets in
the back & receding gums, but he won't touch me because he said that
they only use things that I am allergic too.

You might have lost the lower teeth due to the piercing. If I were you
I'd have the allergies carefully investigated in a lab since, as I said,
I believe you may be allergic against antibiotics and not against local
anaesthetics. That done, I'd get 2 or 3 offers from dentists in your
area, listen to their advice and according to which dentist I feel most
comfortable with I'd go there and start the treatment...

At least, that's what I always recommend here in Europe ...

For 2 years now, I've avoided the problem with natural remedies, salt
water, teas, peroxide, herbs (myrrh, neem), and not eating anything
hard.

I don't think that is a long-term solution but you're doing the right
thing by getting information from here ...


Most all dentists that I contact, only use novocaine, and don't believe
me when I say I am allergic. I have a note from an allergist, but he
won't even test me (too dangerous he says)

You can always do a skin-test. Here in Europe there's no problem to do
it in a lab and I should think it'd be the same in the USA.


I'm terribly frightened because my front bottom tooth is lose and I have
no dental insurance, no job, and am on permanent disability. What do I
do if my tooth falls out, where would I go??

We could say a thing or two about that...
But first of all know this: you can live quite happily without teeth -
this is demonstrated to us every day by people in the third world - they
have a lot less than we do in Europe or you in the USA and yet they are
still full of life - more than we are! I would think out a plan: how
much money can/will I spare for the treatment of my teeth and then I'd
speak frankly with a dentist about it. If you don't have any money at
all to spare than I would consider this statement: if you have a problem
either solve it or don't think about it! Regards to all and sunny greetings from Vienna!
Liebe Grüße JB
 
www.denta-beaute.com
 
 
 
Posted 8 years ago
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Dentist
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Posted 8 years ago
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Patient
Posted by: bluesquaretatt2  (8 years ago)
Dear Dr. Jaroslav,

Thank you for your kind response. I seem to have worded some things incorrectly.
I am allergic to both local anesthetics and antibiotics. My apologies for not being clear.

I was incorrect, my dentist told me that I will loose my front teeth soon because of the
gums being low on the inside of my mouth behind the front 3 teeth. He said that it is the
beginning of periodontal. My other teeth are all great, no cavities.

When I was 8, I was given lidocaine to have teeth removed, and had an anaphylaxis reaction,
when I was 9, I was given another cain, not sure which one and the same thing happened again.
When I was 17 , I had oral surgery to have my wisdom teeth removed.
The dentist gave me carbocaine, & gas, no allergic reaction, other than lots of vomiting & pain.

When I was 18, I used to get lots of tonsil infections, the doctor gave me penicillin, and my tongue
would swell up, I had trouble breathing and my tonsils would swell up more. I also get the same
reaction to amoxicillian, and others in that family.

I went to an allergist in 1996, and had skin testing.. for trees, mold, pollens, dust, cat dander, and things of that sort...
and at the time, he didn't know of any test that can be done, so he
wrote me a note to give to any dentist that treated me. It said;

To whom it may concern, this patient has had a history of allergic reactions to local anesthetics after dental work.
At present, there are not allergy reagents to test for the presence to local anesthetics.
If you need more information, please call ... blah blah.. allergist

Today, I contacted the allergist again, and he said that he still doesn't do that sort of testing and that
I need to get "immunotherapy testing".

I found one place in northern California that does immunotherapy testing, but you have to be a student at their college.
I also called 8 other dentist offices, and they all only use lidocaine, and 2 offices also mentioned the use of novocaine.
(Speaking with secretaries only)

I also contacted my family doctor and she doesn't know where to get that type of testing, but will investigate further for me.
So now, I'm in limbo, and waiting to hear back from somebody.

I'm fine with no teeth, I just thought that it would cause a medical problem for me if I lost one.
My tooth in the front is a tiny bit loose. 1 year ago, when the dentist scraped down to the root, I felt no pain.
That is why he was worried that the tooth is already dead. I'm worried because my gum is swollen over the tooth with no pain.

thank you for everybody's help.
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